Talk:Statue of Liberty

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The Crown of Liberty[edit]

Was it not based on the spiky crown of the Colossus of Rhodes? There is no mention of this in the article. 94.118.219.51 (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

The Statue was originally designed for the Suez Canal in Egypt.[edit]

Bartholdi did not craft the basic design of Liberty specifically for America. As a young man, he had visited Egypt and was enchanted by the project underway to dig a channel between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea. At Paris world’s fair of 1867, he met with the Khedive, the leader of Egypt, and proposed creating a work as wondrous as the pyramids or sphinxes. He then designed a colossal woman holding up a lamp and wearing the loose fitting dress of a fellah, a slave, to stand as a lighthouse at the entrance of the Suez Canal. The Egypt deal fell through, so Bartholdi decided to adventure to America to pitch his colossus. Emirzian (talk) 22:56, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

See the existing page Egypt Carrying the Light to Asia. And please consider joining us to edit too, it's everyone's encyclopedia! Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Museum image[edit]

@Wehwalt: In this edit you wrote, partial rv. We've had an image of the staircase before, possibly even this image. They are not too good at thumbnail. But you removed the torch image. Was that intentional?

Anyway, I think an image of the new Liberty museum may fit in this article. There are a few images I took, which are in c:Category:Statue of Liberty Museum. epicgenius (talk) 22:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, my screwup, sorry. I've reverted. By the way, you don't happen to know what they've done with the plaque with the Lazarus sonnet that was in the old museum? I had to remove references to it being in the museum in the base once they opened the new place. Still need a RS but at least I'd know what to search for.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:48, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Wehwalt, I don't recall seeing it. The NY Post says the museum has a replica of the plaque. I don't know if it's the same plaque as in the old museum though. epicgenius (talk) 23:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2019[edit]

Add to 'Depictions' section: The Statue of Liberty is depicted in the 1685-piece LEGO Architecture Set, Statue of Liberty (Set Number 21042), released in 2018. HomeImprover (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

That's good to know but I think it is the sort of thing that would go in one of the articles dedicated to listing cultural depictions of the S of L. This article, for space and other reasons, is sort of limited to the top ones and despite the importance of LEGO, I'm not certain it qualifies.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Libertas[edit]

This is a sculpture of the goddess Ishtar. The torch is one of her symbols. Libertas looks entirely different. She wears a simple cap and holds a rod. Almond Plate (talk) 13:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

But Bartholdi's name for the statue wasn't Ishtar Enlightening the World ... I suspect he wasn't above mixing symbols or freely borrowing.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:12, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Nor was it Libertas Enlightening the world, it was Liberty Enlightening the world. Almond Plate (talk) 14:22, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Are there sources discussing this matter?--Wehwalt (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Many. So far I've seen nothing we can use but I'll keep searching. Note however that there is no source in the article for Libertas. Almond Plate (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
The source on that seems to be Sutherland, pp. 17–19.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:59, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Seems so. But Sutherland only suggests it, ignoring the crown and the torch, and doesn't provide a source herself. Almond Plate (talk) 15:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
The statue is named Liberty Enlightening the World, and portrays a powerful woman in Roman clothing breaking free of shackles and walking forward that the sculptor named 'Liberty'. It is obviously his portrayal of the known-Goddess of Liberty, Libertas ('Liberty' in latin). That she carries a flame fits with the name, Liberty lighting the way for the expansion of liberty by literally enlightening. Portraying Libertas doesn't mean all of the ancient symbols must be used, or can't be added to or combined with the use of symbols by other God or Goddess representations. The artist named the woman 'Liberty', not 'Ishtar' or 'Susie'. Sutherland seems enough to use to state the obvious. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
What source makes you think that the artist gave the statue a woman's name? Liberté is a noun. It applies just as much to Ishtar, the goddess of personal freedom, as to Libertas. Almond Plate (talk) 18:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I am close to a source. Bartholdi's biography is often mentioned to contain the text: “he caught a vision of a magnificent goddess (Nimrod’s Semiramis — Isis or Astarte), holding aloft a torch (of Illuminism) in one hand and welcoming all visitors to the land of freedom and opportunity”. Astarte is another name for Ishtar. I don't have access to the biography so I can't check this, but maybe someone can. Almond Plate (talk) 20:29, 14 July 2019 (UTC)